Anarchic update news all over the world - Part 2 - 26 February 2017

Today's Topics:

   

1.  The Barcelona Interview Series - Aitor Tarradella from
      Embat: "For me to Leave Spain is a Strategic Move"
      (a-infos-en@ainfos.ca)
   

2.  alas barricadas - cnt catalunya: The rime returns to the
      city of Pisuerga. Communiqué of the Anarchist Group Cencellada
      (ca, it) [machine translation] (a-infos-en@ainfos.ca)
   

3.  France, Alternative Libertaire AL Décembre - Melenchavism:
      The unions behind me ! (fr, it, pt) [machine translation]
      (a-infos-en@ainfos.ca)
   

4.  [USA] Support Riseup! Today, we will present the story of
      Riseup. By ANA (pt) (a-infos-en@ainfos.ca)
   

5.  cgt-lkn: The union robbery of the ERE (By Rafael Cid) (ca,
      it) [machine translation] (a-infos-en@ainfos.ca)


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"Tomorrow there will be elections in Catalonia. On Novermber 20 we spoke with Aitor of 
Embat." ---- How did you react when the independence movement came up and was getting 
stronger, because I guess it wasn't easy to find a position on what to do in this 
situation? ---- Aitor: Well, first I am from Embat and we are people from different 
generations. We have a real connection and knowledge of the independent movement. Even 
before it was stronger as it is now. The leftwing independence movement is from well... 
between 82 or 86. So they have a long history. So your question about independence or 
emanciptation of Catalonia.. It's something that was very present in our organisation from 
the beginning. Even before it's creation. So when it really started we already had our 
point of view and a position about that. So it wasn't really difficult to take a stand 
about that. Our position about this kind of self-determination was an idealist position. 
The situation is often more visible and more clear in colonies like for instance Algeria 
or the Philippines (These states are officially independent, but still treated as 
colonies, EIE). So we tried to make this relation between the colonies and Catalonia. But 
I think our strongest position is not this point, it's a strategic one. The strongest 
point is about the restoration of the democracy in 1978 and the fact that in these 40 
years the Spanish state is like a fortress. It's blocking any advance to change anything. 
Even the smallest reformist idea. So we think that it was an opportunity to make a 
declaration of independence to break out of Spain. It opens a new field, new possibilities 
to change things. Not directly an anarchist society but to have new possibilities to to 
work on that. So we understand the declaration of independence in this way. A strategic 
way. So people can take the streets and have more empowerment and then we might be able to 
really change things someday. But at the same time we weren't very enthousiastic about it 
(the declaration of independence, EIE). Because society was not prepared. Some 
independentists have really strong ideas about nationalism, like this inter-classist 
scenario. Which is not our thing. But we understand this as a strategic step anyway. So 
yes we decided maybe we are going to vote, it's going to happen and maybe things will not 
change in the way we want but it will open a new field. We can work out new strategies on 
this new field. The place where we are is closed, were stuck and can't change anything 
(inside the Spanish state, EIE).

The date that drastically changed a lot for me was the 20th of September. That was the day 
that the Spanish Guardia Civil and the Policia Nacional came to the CUP (Far-left party in 
Catalonia, EIE) headquarters and to the Catalonian ministry of economy. They started to 
confiscate voting registers and arrested officials. There were a lot of people on the 
streets. The committees to defend the republic were created and expanding fast. This day 
was not just about big politics like Catalan president Puigdemont against Rajoy (Spanish 
prime minister, EIE), on this day it became a grassroots movement. People started to take 
action, maybe not the kind of action that I was expecting but that day changed the whole 
scenario.

There are many different groups, initiatives and parties who are part of the independence 
movement. Can you tell us something about your views on these different groups and about 
their positions?
Aitor: First of all I will speak about the political parties that were in Catalan 
parliament before the Spanish state forced us to hold new elections on the 21st of 
December. We have this coalition of parties Junts pel Si ( which means Together for Yes, 
JxSi, EIE). Which is a coalition of Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya (ERC, EIE) which is 
a party that is about 100 years old. Then we have Convergence and Union (Convergència i 
Unió, CiU, EIE), a liberal right wing and conservative party which has its origins in the 
transition. This party was dissolved and re-founded as PDeCAT. In the Junts pel Si there 
are also some independent people from other parties that were not present in the 
independence movement. This coalition was created to organize the referendum and to make 
the declaration of independence possible. There are also some people from civil society in 
this coalition. The presidents of the ANC and Omnium are also in it. This is part of the 
spectrum. For me it's totally right wing and controlled by the parties. The people from 
civil society that are in it, are there to have a good appearance but they have no social 
content. They have this totally inter-classist idea and that's it.

Then there is CUP, which is the left independentist party. It came out of the 
left-independentist movement. There are two main organisations in CUP, one is more 
anti-capitalistic than the other. They have different points of view in strategy. There is 
also ARAN, which is the youth organisation of CUP. A left independence workers union, 
there is also a feminist organization, and an anti-repression Organization inside CUP. So 
this is the spectrum where they work with. I think they are really interesting. They 
started as a municipalist movement and tried to do politics from the city councils. A few 
ago they did the step to get into Catalan parliament. They did that to support the 
declaration of independence. They are also interesting because they have really strong 
ethics. They have a salary cap. Their MP's can keep 1400€ of the 5000€  they receive. The 
rest are given to solidarity movements and social issues. The structure of CUP is mostly 
horizontal. They don't have a chief in command or something like that. Decisions are taken 
in assemblies. They also have a quite ambitious program. They are anti-capitalists, 
feminists and ecologists. There are also some parts of the old left, like some communists 
in CUP. But their visions are pointed to what I would call the new left. Their main 
reference are movements like the Zapatistas and Kurdistan (Aitor meant Rojava, EIE). They 
are not coming from the old Soviet-Union ideas.

So these are the parts of the independent movement that are in parliament. On the streets 
you have the left-independentist movement. These are organisations that are not only 
working in a parliamentist way. There are for instance syndikalists etcetera etcetera. On 
the other hand we also have the ANC and Omnium which are the main organizations that 
nowadays are leading the Catalan independence process. They are linked with Junts pel Si. 
These two organisations are inter-classist and have no social content. They just want 
independence for independence. They have faith in the institutions. At first it seemed 
that they were the ones that were pushing the government to declare independence but right 
now it seems that they are just taking orders from the government. Now they say, stay 
calm, wait for the elections blah blah blah.

Than we have some other indepententist movements, but in my view they are not properly 
organized. There is Negres Tempestes (Read our interview with Negres Tempestes, EIE), 
which is a small collective. I think that's the spectrum inside the independence movement.

And now, since the 20th of September, we have the CDR's, the Committees to Defend the 
Referendum. These are local organizations that are mostly initiated from the left and 
created to have a response and defend the referendum so people would be able to vote 
(during the referendum on the 1st of October, EIE) but also to defend people against the 
police. Most of the CDR's are very diverse. Not one of the CDR's is similar to the others 
because they are formed by many people which are very diverse. But at the same I think 
that this diversity is a benefit. They have a lot of debates about many issues that the 
other organizations cannot do. In some places, where they are more horizontal than in the 
others, they are horizontal and they use methods of direct action. They have no leaders. I 
think this development is really interesting.

There are also anarchists who are not involved in the independence movement. Can you tell 
us something about their position and how do you think about that?
Aitor: I think that the independence movement or maybe it's better to say this 
independence idea has been present from the beginning as I started to get politically 
active. It's present in all the anarchist movements for a long time now. Many years ago it 
was linked with anarchists that were totally ideologic. Idealistic about anarchism. The 
mainstream anarchists at that time were people like for instance squatters, dressed in 
black and all this stuff. They had this position that we have to be against a declaration 
of independence and things like that because it's about nationalism and creating a new 
state blah blah blah. I think that was the main position. A few years ago this has changed 
but because the independent movement has changed, the anarchist movement has changed it. 
Nowadays there are much more social anarchists, or maybe I should say practical ones. They 
try to develop new strategies and create new material to work with other people. If you do 
that you cannot be an outsider of society. I think that changed a lot. But right now I 
think it's not mainstream to be an independentist in anarchism. There is a debate right 
now and I think it's kind of late. During a meeting with many people we had a good debate 
about this but at the same time no-one is getting to a conclusion. Everyone is giving his 
or her opinion but that's it. There was no position like: this is what we need right now. 
So the debate is ongoing because many people don't want to come to a conclusion. I think 
it's an error for anarchism because we don't make clear what our position is. For our 
organization it's kind of difficult to work with other anarchists because of this. Because 
we don't have clear answers from many other people. They are like well I am ok with this, 
but not with that. Maybe some have to go 2 steps forward and others 2 steps back. So it's 
very difficult and right now we have this position in Embat but we have to work with the 
leftwing because they are the only ones with a similar position. I think it's a bad 
strategy (by parts of the anarchist movement, EIE) and it's a stalled debate, it's not 
going anywhere.

We actually got a lot of mails after we started publishing different views from anarchists 
in Catalonia about the Catalan process. Mails like: "Why are you publishing his?" Some 
people were really upset. But we continued to publish about the Catalan process, because 
in our view you need to look into a subject and read different positions and views to be 
able to develop your own position. I don't know how people want to start a debate without 
knowing these different positions.
Aitor: Sometimes people just have different opinions, not just about independence. If you 
don't discuss the mainstream position about something it's difficult to expose it. Ah no 
you are a communist or what? It's even difficult to debate about that. Some people just 
have their principals and their principals are totally untouchable.

What are the main reasons for you why Catalonia should leave Spain?
Aitor: I am going to answer what I have said before. For me to leave Spain is a strategic 
move. To break Spain, to fracture the Spanish government. Leaving Spain brings us in a new 
position. To work on social issues. It's to create a new scenario where we can work with. 
I think this break-up is not going to be just a new place for politics in general, but 
also on a social level. There are many people that are not organized in the streets but 
this new scenario gives us new possibilities to work with.

What should change if Catalonia becomes independent in comparison to the situation now?
Aitor: We have 3 different parts and we need a superb position to be able to change 
things. In one part we have the Spanish government. It's totally fascist. Authoritarian 
and repressive. Large parts of Spanish society is very traditional. There is high 
unemployment and many people are still voting the Spanish governing party Partido Popular 
(PP, EIE). But we also have the Catalonian government. We know since last week that they 
were not prepared to make the official declaration of independence. They just did this 
symbolic thing to make people feel relaxed and now they are in exile. It seems that they 
are trying to start a dialogue with the Spanish state to get some kind of referendum pact 
or something similar. And then we have civil society. It has organized itself in the 
committees (CDR's, EIE) but also in other ways. Now people have been empowered but I think 
it's not enough. On November 8 there was a general strike, but it was hidden. They called 
it a general stop just not to call it a general strike. But people were able to block the 
main roads in the territory. I think that was a big victory for many people. But now it 
seems that we are stuck. We don't have any other plan. People seem to wait for new steps 
of the Spanish and Catalan government. Many people are still acting in a responsive way.

On the other hand we have the Spanish left (parties). For me they are kind of shameful. 
They are not doing anything about it. They are just waiting to give a new statement and 
looking what they can gain and are afraid to lose votes. They are not working on a street 
level at all. For me that's wrong and cynical. I think the Spanish left have to change 
radically or they will end up in another regular party. They have to change their 
mentality a lot.

So for things to change here, I think we cannot do much more than waiting for the 
government. We are still dependent from them, which is a shame, but this how things are 
right now. But at the same time it's a great moment for us. There have been a lot of 
demonstrations, almost daily. It has been really tiring for a lot of people in the 
committees, every time they had to go to the center of Barcelona. So right now I think 
it's a good moment for the committees to grow up and to get stronger during the time we 
will have to wait for the elections and see what happens. People didn't believe in 
themselves so much and we should develop a vision what the next step in the independence 
process could be. For me that would be a constituent process. I think the CDR assemblies 
are the best place to do that. So people can empower themselves and be a part of it, 
create it and are not just responding to the government. But also because people who are 
not part of the independence movement right now can empathise with it. We are also 
organizing, together with other parts of the left, a social constituent assembly. It's the 
left and social answer on the ANC und Omnium on a political level. This can be a good 
assembly where people can empower themselves and maybe this could change some the point of 
view of people.

Many people in Europe don't know what's meant with the regime of ‘78. Can you explain that 
to our readers?

Aitor: We're coming from a dictatorship that lasted 40 years and then we had this kind of 
transition. Some historians call it transaction. This transition was also a big moment in 
Spanish history. When Franco died we had a period of about 4 or 5 years that a lot of 
things were changing. A new constitution was written and a lot of political parties came 
up, especially the ones that ruled Spain since then. The PP, which is a right wing party. 
A lot of their politicians came from the Franco government. And the PSOE. First they were 
communists and marxists but during the transition they changed their ideals and now they 
are social-democrats. Well they were social-democrats in the beginning after the 
transition.  But now they are just neoliberals like the others. So during the transition 
they were like well we are in favour of abortion but in the end there is just economics 
and their politics are the same. This transition was written in 78. So from there to here 
only these two parties have been ruling Spain. That is why we call it a two party system. 
You also see this on other states, like the United states but there it's a kind of 
tradition. Here it's not a tradition. It's something that happened because some people 
wanted it to happen. It smells, it's rigged. So we were in a cycle of struggles and 
thought we could change something. We tried again and again. But this system cannot be 
changed because these parties are the same. They are controlling the economy. It's a kind 
of rotative system, like these hotel doors. They go in as politicians and they go out to 
get into the energy enterprises or other corporations. There is also a lot of corruption 
in these parties. So we call this the regime of 78. This political block is not changing. 
They are like the dictatorship. Never. Even now, with new parties like Podemos they are 
not changing this. Podemos can't change it because the PP and the PSOE are to strong. They 
cannot be foughted from within the institutions. So we have to make this break-out to 
change it. On the political level that's the regime but we also have some old ideas in the 
heads of some people. And there is the king. The constitution. There are a lot of people 
in Spain right now who are against independence. They argue that we have a constitution. 
If you want to go you first have to modify the constitution. But the constitution is also 
fortressed for these parties so you cannot change it. It's not just a political regime, 
it's also a kind of social mentality regime.

The Spanish government suspended catalan autonomy with article 155. What do you think 
would be a effective way to resist against this kind of repression?
Aitor: This article was approved for the same reason as the fact that we cannot change 
anything. It's was approved to make sure the two ruling parties of the Spanish state keep 
the power in the whole state. It's part of the constitution. So it's part of the mentality 
of the 78 regime. We cannot really resist against this article. People are still not 
organized enough to break it. There are many people in the independence movement that are 
opposing this article. They resist but right now it's really pacifist. But not just 
pacifist, it's passive. Mostly there are symbolic actions. So this is a big repressive 
action by the Spanish government but if we are not empowered enough we cannot do much 
about it. People wait until the upcoming elections and that a new government would change 
something. But for me... I don't know... maybe some public workers like from public TV or 
radio or teachers, who's jobs are being questioned by the Spanish government at the moment 
can do something but it's not something that can be easily changed.

How can people outside of Catalonia support the struggle here? Do you have any ideas about 
that?
Aitor: I think that the main thing they can do is spreading the word. It's like you told 
me before. Many people know but it seems a lot of them don't want to know. I think right 
now the only thing that can really change something right now is some action by the EU. 
Some government... We are still not empowered enough to do things that could be effective 
ourselves outside Catalonia. So yes, I think the main thing that people can do is to 
spread the word and to receive good information. It's important because there is a lot of 
disinformation from Spanish TV.

Can you tell us something about the rise of Fascism im Spain and Catalonia?
Aitor: I think that's an issue to be worried about. A lot of people here who are Catalan 
nationalists are not fascists. Often they have a more liberal opinions. Most fascists in 
Catalonia are working together with Spanish fascists. For now, I think it's still not as 
dangerous as it could be. But at the same time I think that the extreme positions we are 
facing right now are feeding fascism. I think it's kind of inevitable. This is how things 
happen. If something big happens like here in Catalonia, you will always find people who 
oppose that and a part of them will do that in the most extreme way. With fascist 
positions. So yes fascism is growing but at the same time there are many people on the 
streets to fight for other things. Which is actually good.

On the other hand we have Spanish fascism. For me that's the more dangerous one because in 
this struggle there is a lot of nationalism. I don't deny it, it's also on the Catalan 
side. People are getting this ideas, these things are in there heads, this nationalism. 
Many people who are against Catalan independence rapidly became a kind of super Spanish 
and started to say things like ‘fuck Catalans' and ‘We are all Spanish'. It's like they 
have put this kind of ideas in a bag and won't go out. They don't want anything else. But 
on the Catalan side you have a similar phenomenon. Like I am Catalan and I am pro liberty 
and for human rights blah blah blah. So they put themselves in the other bag and also 
won't go out. Not in any direction. So because there are a lot of people against Catalan 
independence in Spain. They think that the economy will get worse, not because of 
economics or political reasons but because of Catalan independence. For many people it 
started with carrying a flag. They meet other people with a flag. They emphatized and 
became fascists although they often don't even know this about themselves. This is how 
Fascism is growing. To some extent below the surface.

Another problem is that the Spanish left is doing nothing about this. Like I said before 
they are just trying to gain votes with watering speeches. By doing this they are doing 
the fascists a favour. They don't talk about it. They are not organizing on the streets. 
They don't do anything to stop it So fascism is growing in Spain. But these days fascism 
is also growing in Catalonia. Not at the same level but there is no real resistance 
against it. One of the reasons is that many people in the independence movement are taking 
orders from the ANC and Omnium. They are kind of liberal so they are very passive about 
doing anything. If Nazi's in Catalonia or even here in Barcelona notice that there is not 
a lot of resistance, they will grow again. So that can become a problem but at the moment 
it's more a Spanish than a Catalan problem.

What do you think about the pacifist strategy of the independence movement?
Aitor: Ok I can understand it because from the beginning of 15M until now all the 
movements had a pacifist agenda. At the same time it's kind of inclusive because a lot of 
people are scared of violence. Or even scared of violence that I don't even understand as 
violence like.. Things like breaking a window of a bank... Or selfdefence. That kind of 
stuff. I think there are a lot of people that are scared of things like this. So instead 
of trying to define what is violence and what is making them scared, they are making the 
point that they are not violent. But without a definition about what violence actually is, 
its more like when the media say this and that is violence, then I am against it. Then you 
are paralyzing yourself. Than its a dogma, nothing else. Its dificult, because parts of 
the media are telling people all the time that these actions are violent, but they are 
not, they are non-violent. The parts of the media that are telling this, are able to do 
that because when we don't have our own postion about violence, a position that's based on 
a definition of violence, then we can't do much against these stories of violence by parts 
of the media. To give an example. There were discusions about spraying paint on a bank 
office during the general strike at October 3. Some people thought that this was a violent 
action. So I think the discussion should not be about violence or non-violence. It should 
be about what is violence?, and what are we able to do?, and what do we want to do? Or 
willing to do?

There is also a new organisation now. Its called something like "Stand for Peace". This 
organisation is trying to make things even more pacifist. For me it's kind of strange, 
because until now everyone has been so pacifist. If you try to aske something from the 
European Union I think it's a good strategy, but a strategy, not a dogma. Of course it has 
been useless (to ask something for the EU, EIE) but the big organisations are still making 
clear that they are pacifists. At first I had some doubts about what they were doing. I 
thought okay, maybe they will define what is violence and what is not and that they will 
explain people how you can do certain actions and explain why these actions are useful. 
But at the end it wasn't like that. It was just to make clear that a protest or something 
like that had to be totally pacifist. They are not even open to discuss their actions or 
their point of view. The communication is only going one way: Top-down. So I am very 
skeptical about the positions of the big organisations and especially the new organisation 
on this.

Last month we reported from a demonstration of the independence movement. We saw that a 
part of the protesters were celebrating the Catalan police. We were... well.., let's say 
surprised. What is your position on things like that?
Aitor: I understand that you were surprised. I think first people have to understand the 
diversity of people that are pro independence. A lot of these people were not organized 
and never were part of a movement until now. Many of them were not on the streets 5 or 6 
years ago, during 15M. So right now it's their position. In some of the CDR's, the 
seöf-defence committees a lot of people are thinking about that. They discuss this kind of 
things. To make it clear I am against people celebrating Catalan cops, or any other cops 
and all that kind of stuff. Some people think that it's okay to celebrate the Catalan 
police, many of them are thinking this for many many years. I don't think you can change 
this by writing a good statement, the CDR's are probably the best place to discuss things 
like this again and again. We have to work on that day by day. I don't even think I would 
support to do it in a collective way as a group. I won't do that. I think I would do it as 
an individual. Day by day, speaking with people, with empathy. Working with people who 
don't see you as a freak, but to empathise with people. So they notice that your ideas are 
not as crazy as it seems.

I also want to add that a lot of people are celebrating the police because of the 
terrorist attack that happened this summer. The head of Catalan police was described as 
some kind of super-hero and there was a lot of bullshit published about that. But others 
just didn't think a lot about it. They are just like... well... I am Catalan and I support 
Catalan police. Without any doubt, without seeing all the stuff Catalan police have done 
over the years. Like murdering people and even admitting it.

We remembered how Catalan cops cleared the 15M occupation at the Catalunya square in 
Barcelona in 2011...
Aitor: Yes actually one of the policemen who took part in that police operation... there 
was an image of a woman that gave a police man a hand during an independence demonstration 
and after that many memes appeared with this image because there were several court cases 
against this police man because he was accused several times of torturing people that were 
arrested.

On November 19 we were on a anti-fascist demonstration on the Via Augusta (Barcelona) and 
again and again fascists were provocating the demonstration, trying to attack them. A lot 
of the fascists were masked. The first question is.. Is there an increase in fascist 
violence in the last couple of months and the second question is... The way people were 
marching on the anti-fascist demo on November 19 and how they continued their march after 
the fascists showed up... There was not any moment that the anti-fascist demo would have 
been able to defend themselves. They didn't even try. They were not even building chaines 
or things like that. They were totally depending on the Catalan police. It was quite 
dangerous...
Aitor: I wasn't there but I heard a lot of comrades were talking about this demonstration 
and how aweful it was. I think the anti-fascist movement is kind of devided in two 
tendencies. One is the classic one with red and black which is standing outside of 
society. People see them as violent. But the other one, the one that organized the 
demonstration on November 19... they dont see racism and fascism as an institutionalized 
problem. A few days before the demonstration they were still working together with the 
social-democrats... the ones who defend the 155 article and stuff like that.. The ones 
that work together with parties who stand for the reigme of 78... They are believing in 
the institutions and are pro police. They also don't have this action tradition... They 
just march for marching. It's symbolic. The old antifa movement normally would have 
reacted on the fascist provocations during the demonstration, maybe there would have been 
fights or even a riot...

I didn't even mean direct actions or stuff like that... There were a lot of elderly people 
on the demo at November 19 and just to give an example people could have build-up chains 
around the elderly people when the fascists showed up to protect them from the fascists.. 
but on the demo people didn't even try things like that...
Aitor: I understand what you mean. Maybe it's because we didn't have a real or let's say 
big fascist problem in Catalonia. It's kind of growing at the moment but in Catalonia it's 
a bit like in the Basque country. There aren't many organized fascists so it never was a 
big threat, so people are not used to having to be prepared to defend themselves against 
fascists during a demonstration. Many people feel comfortable, also on the streets and 
they think they don't have to resist. They think the police will defend them. I doubt 
that, but that's what many people think.

Actually the police did during that demo. But I would not rely on it...
Aitor: Yes I know what you mean. The other thing is that you have this dogma about 
pacifism here. I say pacifism but in the end it's just passivity. Doing nothing about it 
and I think that's a problem because someday we are going to have some people killed and 
this would happen because of this passivity.

A few days before the demo you rerfered to, there was an anti-fascist demo organized by 
the "old" antifa movement but there were not many people. I think the anti-fascist 
movement has to unite and re-organize. But I have to say that the area where you were on 
November 19 is probably the only district of Barcelona where there are a lot fascists.

Yes we saw a lot of fascist stickers and posters and stuff there, that we didn't see 
anywhere else in Barcelona. Not on this scale.
Aitor: This city is very divers and multi-cultural. Many migrants are coming to Barcelona 
and live here. If you are in Raval, a neighbourhood where many migrants live, you don't 
see any fascist stickers or other fascist stuff at all.

When did the independence movement start?
Aitor: Well... I give you the short version. From the past couple of years where it became 
mainstream. The boost came shortly after 15M. That was the time that the ANC was founded. 
Artur Más, the former Catalan president, started to talk about independence in a liberal 
way. Before that the independence movement wasn't that big, but mostly they were from the 
left. Historically people were working on this for about 100 years but it's only about 5 
years ago that it really started to grow.

What do you think was the main motivation for people to join this movement.
Aitor: Right now I think that many people joined the independence movement because they 
have a nationalistic point of view. But there are also many people who joined because they 
don't see any alternative in Spain. They see Spain as a monolith where you can't change 
anything. Not even when you would start a new party. It wouldn't change anything (Podemos 
is about to proof that, EIE). I think the main reason for many people to join the 
independence movement wass because they thought: This is an alternative, it's something 
new and it could happen.

We went on an assembly of one of the CDR's and we also were on some of the 15M assemblies 
a couple of years ago. Do you think parts of the independence movement came out of 15M?
Aitor: Yes I think so. I was active in the 15M movement. During that time there were 
already a few meetings were we spoke about independence. There were a lot of people with 
this kind of ideas . It was also the time that CUP came into parliament. So yes I think 
there are links between the 15M movement and the independence movement. Ofcourse I speak 
about the 15M movement on the Catalan territory.

What do you think about how a future anarchist society should deal with people that work 
for the state now. I don't only mean people like cops, but also state offcials who work in 
the office and write the deportation order or stuff like that.
Aitor: I think we would need some kind of community police like they have in Chiapas in 
Mexico, or the kind of militias like in Rojava. Not to patrol the streets but to be able 
to respond when something happens. For the people who work for the state now, like police 
men, I think they could do social services for the community. Social services that are not 
oppressive. I would like to add that in 1936, during the Spanish revolution, a lot of 
cooperatives and councils gave the bosses the opportunity to join them. Not as a boss but 
as an equal member. They didn't have more authority then the other members, but they could 
join.

Big organizations like the ANC are dominating solidarity work for the independence 
movement in foreign countries. Do you know other, more grassroots organized groups who are 
organizing solidarity for the independence movement in other countries?
Aitor: The idea to do that was discussed in some CDR's, not a lot, but it has been 
discussed. And the CDR assemblies are spreading. There is one in Mexico, one in Paris, one 
in Berlin and also one in Scotland. And I think one in Ireland. The Kurdish movement also 
showed their solidarity. For me that was important. It showed me that we are not doing as 
bad as it seems.

Do you want to install a republic of councils? Not a Soviet-Style one but one like Like 
some other groups that support the independence movement? And if yes, how do you want to 
create it?
Aitor: Well I haven't sorted out all my thoughts about it but I think it will be the best 
way to work. Not only in a solely Catalonian way. We have a long way to go. I think a new 
Catalan state cannot be declared without the people that are living there. Things will 
have to change. I think that the Committees (CDR's, EIE) should play a major role in the 
territory. They should be a point where things come together and take part in the 
constituent process. That could change a lot of things.

Do you think the support of this idea of a republic of councils is big enough at the moment?
Aitor: No. Not at all. Not at all. I think that some parts of the left-independentist 
movement will share this idea, also some anarchists. But I think that most people don't 
share the ideal of a more social society. So I think the support is not big enough.

Let's talk about economy and consume. What kind of eceonomic models would you propose for 
a Catalan republic?
Aitor: I think that a lot of things would work better as it works right now, when we would 
organise the economy in cooperatives. Cooperativism. This is already growing a lot in 
Catalonia and also works very well in Rojava. It also works well in the Turkish part of 
the Kurdish territory. There it's used to escape from the control by the Turkish state. 
But also the old anarchist model like no private properties but the thing to start with 
would be the cooperatives to create a new economy.

What do you think about the feminism fight in Catalonia?
Aitor: I think it has a lot of similarities with the feminst struggle in the rest of the 
western world. I think the women are aware of who they are. It's growing a lot and has a 
lot potential. The feminist struggle is also playing a crucial role in the construction of 
the confederal democarcy model people are working with in Kurdistan. That's inspiring the 
feminist struggle here. This could be something that could change a lot of things, not 
just socially but also issues like feminist economy.

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After a series of debates and internal sharing from the Anarchist Group Cencellada we 
consider it necessary to resume our political activity in the particular territory we 
inhabit. Being aware of the changes, the current social problems and the continuously 
mobile political context in which we move, we continue with the need to work in the 
dissemination of anarchist ideas and in the attempt to put them into practice, since we 
understand that anarchists, their practices, their theories and their methods have much to 
say and contribute to society in an attempt to structurally transform everything that 
oppresses and limits us. ---- From the street to the parliament. Some considerations on 
the current political future ---- In recent years we have seen how, after a period of 
great activism and more widespread mobilizations animated from 15M, the various struggles 
have been channeled through the institutional route, emptying the streets. This 
pacification of struggles, both for the institutional recovery, as well as for a fatigue 
and exhaustion of repetitive dynamics, not insignificant, has generated a situation of 
discouragement and lethargy in the social movements in general.

The entrance to the institutions of diverse political projects more or less alternative 
has served to realize the limits of the machinery of the State. Even being an internal 
part of the machine, there are glass ceilings that are closed by institutional means and, 
as we already knew, they will not let them break . We are aware of the role of power as 
well as of its public institutions, which serve only to control those issues that we 
understand should be collective, horizontal and direct management. In our city, 
Valladolid, it is being seen as " the Town Hall of change"It does not have the capacity to 
solve all the needs of the neighborhood, generating a climate of discontent and 
disorientation because there are, in principle, no other alternatives, and also, making it 
difficult to create these based on fines, precariousness and encouraging" participation 
citizen "commercialized, elitist and not real.

With all this and after a couple of years marked by a trend towards social demobilization, 
in recent months an old claim has emerged that, even for a short period of time, has put 
in check an increasingly illegitimate Spanish state , at least, in one of its most 
important territories. We understand that the analysis of what happened in recent months 
in Catalonia does not correspond to us, but nevertheless, we do consider it necessary to 
try to understand its repercussions both in Valladolid and in the rest of the Castilian 
territory.

Without pretending the present communiqué is to make a deep and detailed analysis of this 
issue, we do want to highlight a significant fact: looking at the commotion with a little 
perspective, what beyond the Catalan territory is becoming clear is that they call "Spain" 
there is a latent conflict that has been dragging at least since the fall of the Franco 
regime and that can not be hidden. And is that the transition did not mean a break with 
the predecessor regime as the vast majority of the population claimed. At no time have 
responsibilities been purged or a reparation process fostered for all the atrocities 
suffered / committed during forty years of fascist dictatorship.

Beyond the horizon: life and the abyss

The social conjuncture that surrounds us has its roots in a verified civilizational 
crisis. We can go from scandal to scandal or take the road again for a habitable planet 
and for a free life. For this we have to face the vision of the decadent future plunged 
into a chaotic and destructive dynamic, caused by the unlimited expansion of capitalist 
value. Given this , the duty of the libertarian movement is  to raise again utopias in 
which freedom and life are the center  and make clear the impossible relationship between 
the sustainability of life and the current productivist logic that is maintained through 
the spoliation of the territories and the invisible work of historically female subjects.

Touched but not sunken

We want to reflect on the current situation of anarchism in the Peninsula, being aware of 
where we are coming from and where we are going, in an attempt to continue forming part of 
a libertarian movement that dialogues and adapts to the reality that it has to live in a 
self-affirming attempt of not giving up its basic principles.

After the last repressive attacks by the State to different collectives and anarchist 
individuals in the peninsular geography, our political movement has been persecuted and 
criminalized at a level that was not seen for some years, with a series of police 
operations that sought to deconstruct the existing political and affinity networks, 
besides generating social alarm and feeding the collective imaginary with the link 
'anarchists-terror'. Being aware of the consequences it has had for the libertarian 
movement, and the response that has been given by it, we understand that anarchism is not 
at its best, although before these repressive operations it was not. In an attempt to 
adapt to the times, the different individuals and collectives have sought to reformulate 
their discourse by trying to access everyday problems, and trying to see how they can be 
approached from anarchist practice and thought. The realities of each territory are 
different and each particular situation has its own context in which to carry out its 
political struggle.

As anarchists, we continue to organize ourselves to carry out the social transformation we 
desire based on methods and ideas that we consider useful and necessary. We are aware of 
the situation in which we find ourselves and in what direction we want to direct our 
efforts and objectives. For this reason we continue working as an anarchist affinity group 
to provide from our particular vision some tools so that the root social change that we 
want is a bit more viable.

Valladolid. December 2017

http://alasbarricadas.org/noticias/node/39396

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Mélenchon had promised us. The million, the million demonstrators against the ordinances ! 
Then he went back. Is it sourness that explains his charge against "  the unions  " who do 
not wish to follow suit  ? But who is the leader of insubordinate France ? ---- In his 
blog and in the media, Jean-Luc Mélenchon has played the big arms until his march of 23 
September in Paris. Given the very relative success of this national rise and the 
criticisms of his hegemonic approach, he declared that he allowed the trade unions "to 
take control  " of the organization of the struggle against the ordinances. Too kind, 
thank you ! Then, faced with the very real difficulties of trade unionists in developing a 
solid strike movement, he began to blame unions, their divisions and their independence 
for being responsible for the situation. Excerpts from General Méluche's blog, October 31:

"  The Charter of Amiens constantly invoked again will have had good back. It is high time 
that many who refer to it to stigmatize the presence of political organizations in the 
social struggle are wondering whether this document dating from 1905 and resulting from 
the battle between Marxists and anarchists at the beginning of the previous century must 
remain a dogma without nuance 111 years later. Because this text fixes a strategy of 
workers' unity by keeping at a distance the "socialist sects" (at the time, in 1905, there 
are five socialist parties) to allow the triggering of the "general revolutionary strike" 
... Among the leaders of the current social movement, which intends to prepare today a 
"revolutionary general strike" as provided for in the "charter of Amiens" ? No one ! "

"  Of course, on November 16, you have to be in the union mobilization. As at every stage, 
the insubordinate France mobilizes alongside the unions while the opposite is never true. 
Nobody, including those who give lessons, mobilizes so much. We must end this hypocrisy. 
In any case, I say it clearly: political organizations have their place in the 
mobilization and the conduct of the social resistance movement.  "

These excerpts call for comment: parties electoral workers today are in the same state of 
fragmentation and sectarianism at the turn of XX th century. With the Amiens Charter - 
which dates from 1906 and not from 1905 - the anarchists and revolutionary syndicalists 
had two objectives: to preserve the unity of the CGT from the rivalries between political 
factions ; to protect the workers' movement from reformist illusions. Obviously, the 
Charter is still relevant ! If too few union activists - we are - still mention the 
general strike expropriator, alas the melenchonists are shining on this ground neither in 
congresses, nor in the AG ...

The externality claimed by the social movement is striking. To pretend that "  nobody 
mobilizes as much  " as the IF is otherwise grotesque except to justify Mélenchon's claims 
to direct trade union activity. We do not need political leaders but builders and builders 
of unions.

Finally, we must once again recall that Mélenchon bears a direct responsibility for the 
disenchantment and wait-and-seeism that strike the proletariat for having been so long a 
leader and surety for the PS, senator, secretary of state in the service of liberal policies.

Producers and producers, let's save ourselves !

Jean-Yves (AL 93-center)

http://www.alternativelibertaire.org/?Melenchavisme-Les-syndicats-derriere-moi

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Message: 4






Once upon a time, it was a twenty-something couple who had just come out of an exhausting 
and exciting week of beautiful protests against the World Trade Organization in Seattle. 
They had a question in their burning hearts: what would be our best way to build justice 
movements in the world? Being more of a hacker and geek vein, they came up with the idea 
called  riseup.net . ---- In the beginning, the project provided emails and lists to a 
handful of friends who needed secure ways to communicate, something that would not come 
from the corporations they were fighting against. It was a very simple project: we ran the 
server, encrypted the messages and did not save the logs. That was in the 2000s and the 
internet was still a new thing.
As Riseup.net grew with new members, everyone began to think and theorize about why core 
technology collectives were an essential part of creating the movement. There was an 
increasingly evolving conversation about how technology could have, rooted and within 
itself, systems that protected and served people's needs, rather than exploiting them. At 
that time, all our servants were in communes and friendships in Seattle, and there were 
several downs to the basements to solder wires and keep the services running.

Some members of the collective left, others entered. Sometimes with a lot of conflict, the 
way it usually happens when we work collectively. Some of us went to university, others 
moved to Canada, had children, got married, got busy. Many people left for a while and 
came back when they had time and space for Riseup again. Many people stayed. Throughout 
that time, our systems and technologies have grown to provide more services to our users, 
who were not just our friends but also our allies in this quixotic quest.

We've moved our servers to a more secure location. We have made friends with tech 
activists around the world and we have given tools and broadband to smaller tech groups to 
avenge. We write a lot of cool software and make it all free and openly distributed for 
anyone to use. We were sued by right-wing religious types who did not like our users to 
kiss their conservative church. With activist advocates, we put on our best clothes and 
went to federal court, and we refuse to give any information about our incredible users. 
We win the case. And we keep growing.

And then came Edward Snowden. Suddenly, the things we've been saying to people for years 
have stopped sounding like conspiracy theories. People understood that surveillance was 
coming at us. The number of users has increased and we have improved our security. 
Spammers and phishers attacked us on all sides and we counterattacked in a continuous and 
boring war. Enemies have encountered several bugs to use our services and we play 
cat-and-mouse to find them and kick them out. Every year we improve something, like 
encrypted email storage this year. Every year, we keep talking about our why and 
theorizing how technology, which is changing everything around us, is an essential place 
to reclaim space and create liberation shifts.

And here we are, eighteen years later. Some of you have been with us since the beginning. 
Some of you are new to Riseup. We are very lucky to be on this journey with all of you and 
we remain as stiff, exuberant and exhausted as ever. Please, please keep us running for 
another year, if you can.

> Donations:  https://riseup.net/en/donate

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If nobody coerces us when it comes to voting, we have the government that we deserve. If 
we voluntarily join a union, we have the unions that we deserve. Both governments and 
unions are there because we wanted it. They are our representatives. That is the tragedy 
that is hidden behind the deepening social involution. An evil that comes from below-up, 
without complexes or excuses. With our endorsement And contributing in passing to foster a 
culture of submission and resignation that makes it unnecessary for the powerful to use 
force to achieve their goals. ---- That would be one of the possible explanations of what 
just happened in prosperous Austria. Where thanks to the support of an important part of 
the population, a recognized xenophobic party has managed for the second time to enter the 
government of the nation. Jibarizando what they call democracy and is nothing but a raffle 
that is activated every four years. A mere scoring technique. Like a raffle or a pool. 
With just enter the ballot box already precooked with the name of the party and their 
tribe. With hardly any capacity for deliberation or less decision by citizens. But also 
programmed bottom-up, sovereignly.

And so process after electoral process, we move away more and more from something that is 
minimally similar to the real policy, and paving the way for those who come behind 
reproduce that DNA of meekness because it is the custom. The freedom to choose and consume 
against the right to decide for oneself and to learn from lived experience and not 
deferred. We have seen it in the City Council of the capital, where the Madrid initiative 
decides! , which offers citizens the possibility of participating telematically in the 
government of the city, is turning out to be a complete failure. People do not "want to 
complicate their lives" . Not one of the proposed proposals has elicited responses that 
have exceeded 7,000 supports in a census of 2.7 million inhabitants.

But it would be defeatist and false to attribute all the blame to those represented, those 
we have called "those below." Actually acts of apathy, conservative mentality, cowardice 
and conformism are instigated by the intermediate actors that we have accepted gladly 
because it comes in the script . Those institutional agents officially responsible for the 
management of the public in our own name. Parties and politicians, trade unions and trade 
unionists, and in that order of things, all the mediation bodies to which the man and the 
woman in the street give a blank check every time for them to be supplanted. Without 
contract by means and without effective capacity of reversion when the crude reality 
denies the gross promises made. Joined to the yoke of the shared hoax, victim and 
executioner end up getting confused.

The most indecent example of this environmental cannibalization is in the infamous and 
buoyant traffic of the ERE. A bargain for the unions of the concertación (CCOO and UGT) 
that make cash cashing multimillionaire amounts to advise in the massive dismissals that 
the companies approve under the protection of the labor legislation. In theory they use 
their lawyers and accountants to verify the items of the benefits to be paid. Although in 
reality that intermediation becomes a flourishing business for the union structures. So 
the theory of "class struggle" becomes a "class compadreo" from the moment that 
businessmen and union leaders share booty. To more layoffs, more business for all.

This is the great anomaly that, in spite of the crisis that has led Spain to be the second 
country in the European Union with the highest rate of unemployment and one of those with 
the highest precariousness rate at work, is the Carousel of the ERE continue at maximum. 
Right now Banco Santander and Bankia are immersed in two separate employment regulation 
files, according to the cynical euphemism used to camouflage what forced unemployment 
means. In the first case affecting 1,364 people and in the second to 2,510. A huge 
clientele for the friendship trade union, which makes CCOO and UGT richer and contributes 
to the cascade of early retirement to further worsen the future of the pension fund.

In this sense, the Bankia file is particularly odious . When its top leadership and those 
of Commissions and Ugeté reach their last trade union objectives, a historic robbery will 
be consummated. Because the money that was used to destroy those thousands of jobs and pay 
generously to the commission agents in the negotiations will have left the more than 
16,000 million euros taken out to the Spanishfor the rescue of CajaMadrid-Bankia. And if 
that were not enough, the union fortune will fall on the same condemned power stations, 
interposed person, for the disgusting affair of black cards. Fortunately, there are still 
intact unions, such as CGT and CNT, which are only financed with the fees of their 
affiliates, refuse to paste with the ERE and renounce the manna of the training grants.

Let's end with a riddle: why is almost not reported what happens in the macro trial of the 
ERE of Andalusia? For that reason, because it is a scam between the Board, employers and 
unions CCOO and UGT to share about 855 million euros (the barbarity of about 142,000 
million pesetas) among friends, family, acquaintances and addicts the cause. A process 
that has led to the presidency of two presidents of the Junta de Andalucía (as well as 
presidents of the PSOE) and 16 high-ranking officials of its government for alleged 
prevarication and embezzlement of public funds from which power is passing without grief, 
no glory for the incredible fact that those responsible are "one of ours".

Rafael Cid

https://www.cgt-lkn.org/blog/archivos/4690