Blueray, thank you for responding to my post. It really wasn't necessary. However in response, I just wanted to make a few points. I'm not entirely sure it was my post that you read or responded to.
Yes I am free to opine here on this site, that is why I am doing so. Perhaps you feel that you should be allowed to agenda-set, gate-keep and determine who should and shouldn't be allowed to post here. I don't need your permission. Nor do I need your assurances that my feelings are relevant.Lol! I wasn't sharing my feelings, those were my thoughts. And as I can see, what I have done is clearly within the given guidelines.
As for the purpose of this site, I think it is clearly stated above for all who wish to read it. But let me help you out here:
If you wish to respond or speak your mind and write a post/article or about the current situation relating to Iraq, the RV, the GCR and so on. You may now send in an entry:
It also goes on to say:
Solely write intel, rumors, news, thoughts, messages regarding Dinarland, Iraq, the RV, the GCR, NESARA/GESARA, the Republic, Spirituality, Ascension and anything that is relating
As you can see, it doesn't say anything about as you say....
"primary purpose of this site ~ truthful information regarding a primarily financial / political event."
Perhaps you should start your own site with that intent if that is only what you wish to experience.
You also go on to say ".....yet we are here mostly for accurate information."
Who is we? Perhaps you meant I, as I am sure some are solely here for that purpose, but you cannot speak for all.
Now back to the purpose of my response to you and why I questioned if you were responding to my post. First of all, I was referring to a call for everyone to take RESPONSE-ability for themselves. To realise that they were making choices and that they could change those choices at any time. That it was strange behaviour to constantly read posts from certain authors, then come on DC and rant. Especially the serial ranters. My point was that once someone realised another could not be trusted, or that their intel wasn't to their liking for whatever reason, why would they subject themselves to re-visiting over and over again these said author/s? I am not a member of any fluffy brigade, nor am I at the fore-front bashing and trashing so-called intel providers. If that frustrates you, all I can say is Oops!!
At no point did I ask anyone to sing Kumbaya, I assume that was an attempt at sarcasm or to try and belittle the information I was putting forth. Nor did I suggest anyone throw love at anyone. That's all on you. You say that method hasn't worked so far which implies that you may have tried it, in an attempt to as you again put it, make "....the deceivers change their ways".
And this was the point of my article. Leadership and Responsibility. We already know we cannot change another. We can only change ourselves. Any and all attempts to change others is futile and manipulative. No amount of mud-slinging, name-calling, screaming and shouting, tantrums, exposing will bring to one the desired out-come. To suggest that negativity is a tool to desolve fear and trepidation? Come on now! Don't you know that negativity is an aspect of Fear? Being negative is not in any way Daring. It is Not an act of Bravery. Anyone can do that!......... It is easy!!!
And to now suggest that negativity is somehow useful. To whom? Not to humans. But very valuable to the very same people you claim to be protesting about. You know? the 3-letter agencies and those behind them. So if you know they are around, doing what they do, Why give them attention? And why respond in the very same manner they expect? Why feed their desires? Who does that make sense to? And if someone is so upset about the information parading around as intel, wouldn't it be more useful for one to Ignore it? Or if possible,secure their own contacts and get their own intel? Or would that be just TOO easy? Yes I suppose so! So let's just complain instead. What a great idea that is! And when you're done with the complaining, what then? Find something else to complain about? Something else to be upset about? When does it end? What? when everyone looks, thinks, says, does whatever you want them to?......... Well all I can say is good luck with that. It is just so silly that even if someone see's themselves as the "Champion" of the underdogs, the "unpopular vote", the end result is still to bring down the tone on DC. Just what these 3-letter agencies/cabal ordered. It is like a merry little dance, a ride on the merry-go-round. All the actors playing their role oh-so-well. We give crap intel, you get angry and point it out. Then everyone joins in and gets upset. I am advocating to "Rip Up the Script". Come off the ride. It is making you dizzy!! It is not nor ever has it served you. Stop being a puppet!!
The things you talk about go over the top of my head. I had no need to make out of a man a messiah nor a guru. I have not felt the "messiah awe" nor peer pressure to conform. I am not a teenager, nor a child and so I have put away childish things. I am a fully fledged adult and choose to think for myself. I have not put anyone or thing on a pedestal, so I am not holding no man in reverance, nor do I need anyone to earn accolades. I do not live in that world by my own choice. Clearly you did not understand my article.Yet you chose to respond to it. Once again it was about Leadership and Self-Responsibility. Not about"Feeling good and Lovey dovey" as you put it. I am pretty certain I did not write a"Fluffy" post nor anything that could be misconstrued as such. And if I did, what off it?
The stuff you have put forth sounds like victimhood to me. You speak of lovefests, charlatans, malcontents and you speak about verifiable evidence and proof . Yet you accuse me of going on at length about feelings and sadness. Show me the evidence! You see the problem here Bueray, is what you demand of others is exactly what will be demanded of you. Bring the facts, show me the proof of this?
From what I can see you yourself are slinging accusations at others. Making personal slurs, but where is your 'verifiable proof'? You see, even if you were correct, without this proof, whatever you say is just another opinion and you sir/madam, are just another member of the vox populi. Now I would suggest that if you have verifiable proof of what you claim, please by all means present. No need for screaming, shouting, complaining, ranting or any of these useless expressions. I am all ears. Now in the absence of your 'verifiable evidence', I come back to the point of the article. Leadership and self-responsibility. This path requires no gurus......... No gurus? no need to vent, no need to feel conned, deceived, let-down, disappointed, peer-pressured, the list goes on. One simply stands in their power, using discernment as always. This applies to the newbies also. They have transferable skills, can read for themselves. I'm sure they can get along just fine without your help.
So in that context I guess your services are no longer required. Please feel free to exit to the left. Alternatively stay and do what you do. Clearly you have already made that choice. But please don't kid yourself that you doing a favor for anyone other than yourself and those who choose to think like you. And please don't make fun of people who choose Love over fear whilst telling them negativity is good for you. Otherwise you appear to be exactly like the very people you are accusing others of being. I think people experience enough contrast in their daily life and just for the record, I don't have any issue with, nor did I mention "negativity" in regards to the rants. That, once again was not the purpose of my post. No judgements were made, just a possible solution for those who were ready for a different experience. Clearly you are not one of those.
Whatever you think or feel about certain posters, that is your reality not mine, so please don't try to drag me into the mire and muck. I don't do muck!!! That in my opinion is for pigs or maybe a new eco-home. It is quite clear to me we are not on the same wave-length. Maybe Love doesn't have no place in your world, but it is essential for everyone, even if they don't know it. Maybe the world you see is just that way, because you refuse to let love in or choose not to allow it's integration into your being. I don't know! You tell me! There appears to be an issue there. Some resistance maybe? This idea about "No place for Love in business", That is of the old world. Remember? The one were we were made to be slaves and most couldn't survive in it without compromising their very selves.
Yes I am free to opine here on this site, that is why I am doing so. Perhaps you feel that you should be allowed to agenda-set, gate-keep and determine who should and shouldn't be allowed to post here. I don't need your permission. Nor do I need your assurances that my feelings are relevant.Lol! I wasn't sharing my feelings, those were my thoughts. And as I can see, what I have done is clearly within the given guidelines.
As for the purpose of this site, I think it is clearly stated above for all who wish to read it. But let me help you out here:
If you wish to respond or speak your mind and write a post/article or about the current situation relating to Iraq, the RV, the GCR and so on. You may now send in an entry:
It also goes on to say:
Solely write intel, rumors, news, thoughts, messages regarding Dinarland, Iraq, the RV, the GCR, NESARA/GESARA, the Republic, Spirituality, Ascension and anything that is relating
As you can see, it doesn't say anything about as you say....
"primary purpose of this site ~ truthful information regarding a primarily financial / political event."
Perhaps you should start your own site with that intent if that is only what you wish to experience.
You also go on to say ".....yet we are here mostly for accurate information."
Who is we? Perhaps you meant I, as I am sure some are solely here for that purpose, but you cannot speak for all.
Now back to the purpose of my response to you and why I questioned if you were responding to my post. First of all, I was referring to a call for everyone to take RESPONSE-ability for themselves. To realise that they were making choices and that they could change those choices at any time. That it was strange behaviour to constantly read posts from certain authors, then come on DC and rant. Especially the serial ranters. My point was that once someone realised another could not be trusted, or that their intel wasn't to their liking for whatever reason, why would they subject themselves to re-visiting over and over again these said author/s? I am not a member of any fluffy brigade, nor am I at the fore-front bashing and trashing so-called intel providers. If that frustrates you, all I can say is Oops!!
At no point did I ask anyone to sing Kumbaya, I assume that was an attempt at sarcasm or to try and belittle the information I was putting forth. Nor did I suggest anyone throw love at anyone. That's all on you. You say that method hasn't worked so far which implies that you may have tried it, in an attempt to as you again put it, make "....the deceivers change their ways".
And this was the point of my article. Leadership and Responsibility. We already know we cannot change another. We can only change ourselves. Any and all attempts to change others is futile and manipulative. No amount of mud-slinging, name-calling, screaming and shouting, tantrums, exposing will bring to one the desired out-come. To suggest that negativity is a tool to desolve fear and trepidation? Come on now! Don't you know that negativity is an aspect of Fear? Being negative is not in any way Daring. It is Not an act of Bravery. Anyone can do that!......... It is easy!!!
And to now suggest that negativity is somehow useful. To whom? Not to humans. But very valuable to the very same people you claim to be protesting about. You know? the 3-letter agencies and those behind them. So if you know they are around, doing what they do, Why give them attention? And why respond in the very same manner they expect? Why feed their desires? Who does that make sense to? And if someone is so upset about the information parading around as intel, wouldn't it be more useful for one to Ignore it? Or if possible,secure their own contacts and get their own intel? Or would that be just TOO easy? Yes I suppose so! So let's just complain instead. What a great idea that is! And when you're done with the complaining, what then? Find something else to complain about? Something else to be upset about? When does it end? What? when everyone looks, thinks, says, does whatever you want them to?......... Well all I can say is good luck with that. It is just so silly that even if someone see's themselves as the "Champion" of the underdogs, the "unpopular vote", the end result is still to bring down the tone on DC. Just what these 3-letter agencies/cabal ordered. It is like a merry little dance, a ride on the merry-go-round. All the actors playing their role oh-so-well. We give crap intel, you get angry and point it out. Then everyone joins in and gets upset. I am advocating to "Rip Up the Script". Come off the ride. It is making you dizzy!! It is not nor ever has it served you. Stop being a puppet!!
The things you talk about go over the top of my head. I had no need to make out of a man a messiah nor a guru. I have not felt the "messiah awe" nor peer pressure to conform. I am not a teenager, nor a child and so I have put away childish things. I am a fully fledged adult and choose to think for myself. I have not put anyone or thing on a pedestal, so I am not holding no man in reverance, nor do I need anyone to earn accolades. I do not live in that world by my own choice. Clearly you did not understand my article.Yet you chose to respond to it. Once again it was about Leadership and Self-Responsibility. Not about"Feeling good and Lovey dovey" as you put it. I am pretty certain I did not write a"Fluffy" post nor anything that could be misconstrued as such. And if I did, what off it?
The stuff you have put forth sounds like victimhood to me. You speak of lovefests, charlatans, malcontents and you speak about verifiable evidence and proof . Yet you accuse me of going on at length about feelings and sadness. Show me the evidence! You see the problem here Bueray, is what you demand of others is exactly what will be demanded of you. Bring the facts, show me the proof of this?
From what I can see you yourself are slinging accusations at others. Making personal slurs, but where is your 'verifiable proof'? You see, even if you were correct, without this proof, whatever you say is just another opinion and you sir/madam, are just another member of the vox populi. Now I would suggest that if you have verifiable proof of what you claim, please by all means present. No need for screaming, shouting, complaining, ranting or any of these useless expressions. I am all ears. Now in the absence of your 'verifiable evidence', I come back to the point of the article. Leadership and self-responsibility. This path requires no gurus......... No gurus? no need to vent, no need to feel conned, deceived, let-down, disappointed, peer-pressured, the list goes on. One simply stands in their power, using discernment as always. This applies to the newbies also. They have transferable skills, can read for themselves. I'm sure they can get along just fine without your help.
So in that context I guess your services are no longer required. Please feel free to exit to the left. Alternatively stay and do what you do. Clearly you have already made that choice. But please don't kid yourself that you doing a favor for anyone other than yourself and those who choose to think like you. And please don't make fun of people who choose Love over fear whilst telling them negativity is good for you. Otherwise you appear to be exactly like the very people you are accusing others of being. I think people experience enough contrast in their daily life and just for the record, I don't have any issue with, nor did I mention "negativity" in regards to the rants. That, once again was not the purpose of my post. No judgements were made, just a possible solution for those who were ready for a different experience. Clearly you are not one of those.
Whatever you think or feel about certain posters, that is your reality not mine, so please don't try to drag me into the mire and muck. I don't do muck!!! That in my opinion is for pigs or maybe a new eco-home. It is quite clear to me we are not on the same wave-length. Maybe Love doesn't have no place in your world, but it is essential for everyone, even if they don't know it. Maybe the world you see is just that way, because you refuse to let love in or choose not to allow it's integration into your being. I don't know! You tell me! There appears to be an issue there. Some resistance maybe? This idea about "No place for Love in business", That is of the old world. Remember? The one were we were made to be slaves and most couldn't survive in it without compromising their very selves.
Well I can assure you, like it or not, if you are hue-man, you need it and it is the very air you breathe.
You say "Why don't YOU seem to have any problem with these lies & those telling them ?" I say, "Hold on now, you don't know me like that" As I recall, we have never had this conversation. So how would you know what I think? Do you surmise this because I have chosen to "Hold My Peace", and not done a rant post on DC? Perhaps I am a dignified person. Perhaps I said quietly to myself, "whoops! .....you got me there. You won't get me again". Or maybe based on my personality, way of being, I just never put much interest in what the gurus were saying. But in response, maybe I realised a long time ago that the Intel was dud, and made a decision to step away. Maybe I chose to continue reading the intel, but to take it all with a pinch of salt. Maybe I chose not to hedge all my bets on it. Maybe to expect a result, but based on past experience, to have another plan. Maybe I just accepted that if I CHOSE to read from Intel providers that have a dismal track record, I somehow couldn't complain. Maya Angelou said “When people show you who they are, believe them." Maybe I listened to that and learnt. The truth remains that No one providing intel has been correct. Not-a-one. From the beginning to the end. So what now?.........As we stand at the crossroads, What now?
For those of us who don't have, don't know or can't get any contacts, which I assume are the majority. Perhaps our time would be better spent on more noble pursuits. Perhaps preparing ourselves for the new world we are about to step into and our leadership positions. And for anyone who thinks this is all woo-woo stuff, that's on you. The world is a-changing and whether people know it or not, like it or not, accept it or not, it is of no consequence. We can walk into it kicking and screaming or walk into it with elegance, grace, knowing and confidence. It is everyone's choice.Try as you may, no-one can stop it.
For you Blueray, I will continue posting as and when I feel the need to. Yes there is that word again. FEEL! I assume so will you. If you are looking for someone to go 10 rounds with. I am not the one. We won't be going back and forth whilst we trash our points of view out. I have made my point. So have you. I am stable in my position. You do your thing, I will do mine. We can just accept that we think differently and therefore there is no need to engage in any dialogue. I'm not about to think like you, and you're not about to think like me. And so it is.
For everyone else and for those of you not too jaded by this process to "Get It". Someone posted a speech earlier today called "Hope" by Trey Gowdy. Thank you very much Anonymous poster. Regardless of where your political leanings are, it is a good one and well worth the time to listen. I re-post it here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghy79l2qxvI
To everyone, enjoy your day, where-ever you are on this beautiful globe!
Love Ya!
SPA





