(en) Spain, La Haine interview comrades s @ s of Procés
Embat, Catalan libertarian organization "and organized social
anarchism." (ca) [machine translation]
Just over a year ago had publicly Procés Embat, Catalan libertarian organization "and
organized social anarchism." From La Haine we chatted with l @ s @ s comrades this first
year of operation of the project as well as its position on various current issues ----
The Haine.- How Procés Embat born? ---- Procés Embat.- The Procés Embat born from a group
of militants of the libertarian movement in Catalonia that made a criticism of how they
have been doing things in our movement, and most who saw the need to create a strong
libertarian project capable of turn to become a political player in Catalunya. ---- We
believe that we must overcome the lack of political project in anarchism, which has made
quite a few people who militating in groups, unions and libertarians as projects have
sought more political have had to go to other projects and putting their experience work
in the service of other movements.
This steady loss of militants is aided by the "ghettoization" of the movement, which has
fallen into a dangerous self-referentiality that sets him apart from the needs and
aspirations of the rest of society. The anarchist identitarism, inflexibility,
sectarianism, aesthetics, the pursuit of difference to people next door, the eternal
debate, hiperideologización ... are characteristics we understand as negative in our movement.
We understand that anarchism was born a century and a half just as socialism was intended
to reach through direct action. And it was an inclusive political option that was
vehicular action then popular movement, the labor movement (mainly composed of the
industrial working class, craft and peasantry) for the construction of social revolution.
And understand that the more diverse, plural and extensive outside that movement, the
closer will find that social transformation. Anarchism was an ideology that sought the
common good, and its militants who the guy played for the rest of their community had
social, culture, leisure, dignity and organization. So they were referring community and
popular.
The Haine.- After a little over a year since you presented the project In what areas have
you worked at this time?
Procés Embat.- Above all we have worked internally, giving us structure and lines of
action. We have also made quite spread through lectures and texts. And finally we have
activated our community against action by the field of education. This is because we have
a number of people who are active in the educational world (teachers, parents'
associations, etc.) and seek to respond to the problems of its scope along the lines of
Procés Embat. This year we will expand this front of action and activating the labor front
to carry out an intervention in the workplace.
The Haine.- What does Procés Embat compared to more traditional ways of organizing the
libertarian movement?
Procés Embat.- The libertarian movement is usually organized based on the collective. Many
of them are groups of people who manage local. Others hold some kind of social work in the
neighborhood. And others are cultural groups. They all act as propaganda groups of
anarchist idea. However, this work is often based on the idea spread by the idea, without
adapting to the circumstances, vainly hoping that people will "make anarchist".
We think that the movement must have organizations. The is actually the union. And the
labor union about the needs of part of the population. We understand that we need a
political dimension. That is, addressing issues of society and find solutions here and now
trace the strategic lines of the breakthrough.
A first thing to do is to understand political organization of society in which he lives.
And for that you must perform an analysis of the situation. Then you should seek the
society in which they intend to live, and draw in a program. Among the society now, the
analysis, and tomorrow, the program must be a way, that are the tactics and strategies.
And these are determined through documents of strategic lines. We should also realize that
our organization is not alone in the world, and therefore will have to determine which
allies agree.
In short, it is a question that seems logical, and we know that even NGOs do this. The
problem comes when you consider yourself a revolutionary movement and you do not, and as
an excuse argues that political parties do or is not the time. This is caused by not see
ourselves as a leading political actor in our society. We need to change this defeatism.
The Haine.- In your statement apuntáis foundational to the creation of a program with
objectives and specific demands Have you progress in the creation of this program?
Procés Embat.- Our program is done but we have not published openly. More than a
revolutionary society to which aspiraríamos is a program made by the strategies that our
membership should follow to reach a libertarian socialist society. Some of it we dropped
in every statement we make. At the strategic level we think that the actual program will
be performed by the popular movement, which is organized and coordinated people.
In addition to this we have been meetings of the joint analysis, in which we analyzed the
political situation in Catalonia, Spain and Europe. We publish anything about it, but for
now the communications fulfill this role.
The Haine.- How have accepted your proposal libertarian organizations and other groups?
Procés Embat.- believe that in the Spanish state there is no tradition of anarchism from
specific organizations. Where there are coordinating groups and federations of affinity
groups. In our case we found good reception, staying a feeling that would have been
something like what we said and for at least 15 years. We are aware that the absence of
references to indigenous people struggle to understand what it is a political
organization. Obviously we intend to continue in the gap for many years and start a
collaboration with the groups that wish.
The Haine.- Last year I face the 9N posicionásteis strategically for the SI-SI, Can you
explain this position that you took and your position on the political moment that
Catalonia is going through?
Procés Embat.- Our position is that there is quite a popular movement for independence in
Catalonia. Obviously living in Catalunya see it is not a question of a wicked Artur Mas
has used and manipulated an innocent people. Rather, it is that much of society has broken
with the Spanish state and no longer seeks the engagement of Catalunya on it. This view
has spread far since 2009 and has forced all political options to position. And between
them, the parties also "establishment".
Our position is that in building the new country - in the case that whoever wins the
election will dare to take that decisive step - the people have the opportunity to speak
and to be heard by a broad and democratic constituent process.
To talk about everything. And our organization will attempt the extent possible that the
process focuses on the social, that is our natural field.
As you see it is not that independence triggered a revolutionary process, but see if
Catalonia is difficult rupture within the Spanish state we see virtually impossible, given
the tireless support of 30 to 40% of the Spanish population to a Popular Party politically
almost at the extreme right.
Trastoquen need psychological blows that whole society and end up with a regimen of 78
wobble. And independence will give both the Catalan and the Spanish.
The question would be building another state?
First, do not know if they dare to build, there can unmask the elites.
Second, we want the constituent period where you have to discuss ideas and social models,
to offer our alternative and being heard.
Third, the libertarian option has no strength within the Spanish state but something we
minimally Catalunya.
Fourth, the company must discuss the issue of the territorial model, administrations and
state, and anarchism should say something about our confederalista and federalist approach
and the engagement of the free and independent peoples in a territory.
Fifth, there is no revolution without a previous period of politicization of society and
several governments to fall ill because they do not meet what is expected of them.
Our role is to revive the class struggle, the great forgotten in these times, to become
the great engine of social change who can become. An active class struggle in a
politicized society is key.
The Haine.- How analizáis the international political situation at the moment, especially
in Europe?
Procés Embat.- are in a period of widespread instability from the crisis of 2007. Now that
economic and financial crisis has been joined a crisis in China, dragging emerging
markets. Therefore the situation of economic stagnation expands. No government can do
anything about it within capitalism.
Neither it has changed a bit the production model, and has done nothing to reduce the
effects of climate change, much less to try to control the energy issue. The capitalist
world has embarked on a headlong rush that will lead us safely to disaster.
Europe is actively involved in all this. The neoliberal capitalist model is seen as
absolute truth imposed by blood and fire to villages, as we saw in Greece. We are part of
this submission machine. The problem of capitalism is to die killing.
They will not admit their mistakes. Our big problem is on one hand the lack of references.
That is, a revolutionary outbreak somewhere in the world that makes change passivity and
defeatism of the European peoples. And on the other the lack of large popular movements
able to topple governments, such as those in Latin America or we see in Kurdistan.
Kurdistan is being precisely the new benchmark of European revolutionary left. Pending how
events evolve eventually transcending for the rest of the population or not.
The Haine.- As you value the new structures and unit applications that have recently come
into different municipalities and institutions Do you see possibilities for joint work in
some subjects?
Procés Embat.- The new applications are a reflection of the need for political change.
Part of the population is tired of traditional party politics and search references, in
this case more to the left than normal. What happens is that politics and society have
derechizado decades and now you make a social democratic policy becomes a radical. What we
see is that within capitalist institutions is complicated act.
There is a "deep state" that is within the institutions, and also outside, which is able
to determine the policy even if no rule. Therefore, any change is trivial huge media
fought viciously, with the objective that the Untouchables things never question. If you
look in detail at no time it has come the question of ownership, but that has not gone the
working class support measures that definitely help. Or their organizations. For example,
do you remunicipaliza? Can. But we do not know under what conditions.
We propose that for redistricting would be a public service must put under control and
management of its staff and its users. There is much talk of democracy and anything
touching the privileges of those who have robbed us handfuls for decades, and not just
talk about corrupt politicians if not an entire class.
In conjunction with these applications we can, if they wish, to fight the oligarchy. For
example, the popular movement could build a program of economic struggles for once makes
the popular field to take the offensive and begin to gain ground in our class enemy. If we
do not put obstacles in the institutions it would be a great help, for example.
The Haine.- Thank you for your time comrades s, a hug!
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