I meet my guest, a former head of Mossad, at the Clonegal Castle restaurant in Dublin.
'Reuben' prefers that we do not use his real name.
For a starter, I order Dublin Bay prawns with truffle sabayon and prawn bisque.
Reuben says the prawns may be radioactive and orders chopped herring fillet with pickled onion and salad in sour dressing.
For a starter, I order Dublin Bay prawns with truffle sabayon and prawn bisque.
Reuben says the prawns may be radioactive and orders chopped herring fillet with pickled onion and salad in sour dressing.
"So," I ask, "who did Boston?"
"The Irish," says Reuben.
I am relieved to hear it wasn't Mossad.
Cardinal Spellman, also known as Franny, was reportedly fond of boys and worked for the CIA.
Reuben begins to list some of the spooky people who have Irish origins.
William Joseph "Wild Bill" Donovan, the father of the CIA.
CIA bosses John Brennan, William Casey and Michael Hayden.
Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, Bush and a number of others.
Ann Dunham, Walt Disney, Henry Ford...
William Casey, CIA Director 1981 - 1987
"William Casey set up the Jamestown Foundation," explains Reuben, "and we now know that Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended one of their workshops."
I suppose that is a Boston connection.
Reuben reminds me about Iran-Contra.
Just hours before Casey was due to give evidence before Congress about Iran-Contra, he was rushed off to hospital and mysteriously disappeared.
William Casey, CIA Director 1981 - 1987
"William Casey set up the Jamestown Foundation," explains Reuben, "and we now know that Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended one of their workshops."
I suppose that is a Boston connection.
Reuben reminds me about Iran-Contra.
Just hours before Casey was due to give evidence before Congress about Iran-Contra, he was rushed off to hospital and mysteriously disappeared.
"Casey knew all about the CIA's pedophile rings," says Reuben, as he finishes off the last pickled onion. "Casey was a friend of Roy Cohn."
Our milk-fed lamb, with glazed turnips, wild garlic and bog oak sauce, is delivered to our table
William Casey: Co-founded the Jamestown Organization with Zbigniew Brzezinski, Dick Cheney, and Frank Carlucci. He used P2 to destabilise countries. He used the BCCI bank to fund Islamist terrorists.
I ask Reuben: "Who did 9 11?"
"The Irish," replies Reuben.
He explains that it was William Casey who organised the setting up of 'the mad Moslems' in Afghanistan.
"The Irish," replies Reuben.
He explains that it was William Casey who organised the setting up of 'the mad Moslems' in Afghanistan.
Casey had them recruited, trained and armed.
I suggest that not all the CIA people are Irish, but Reuben responds that most of the key people in the CIA are Catholics.
Leon Panetta and John McCone were among the Catholics occupying top positions in the CIA.
George Tenet is a graduate of the Jesuit Georgetown University.
George Tenet is a graduate of the Jesuit Georgetown University.
Reuben then reminds me of some of the people linked to the Catholic Knights of Malta, such J. Edgar Hoover, Allen Dulles, and Oliver North.
We pause our conversation as the waiter brings us our Tarte Tatin, pressed apple terrine and pain d‘épice ice cream.
We pause our conversation as the waiter brings us our Tarte Tatin, pressed apple terrine and pain d‘épice ice cream.
I ask Reuben if the Irish are still as powerful as before.
He points out that Obama chose John Brennan, from Roscommon, to head the CIA.
"Brennan is going to retire to Ireland, according to his family," explains Reuben.
Over coffee, I bring up the subject of the USS Liberty.
"President Lyndon Johnson and the CIA could see that Nasser was increasingly pro-Soviet," says Reuben. "Johnson decided to topple Nasser. As part of Operation Cyanide, the USS LIBERTY was sent to operate off the Sinai coast, in order for it to be sunk."
He points out that Obama chose John Brennan, from Roscommon, to head the CIA.
"Brennan is going to retire to Ireland, according to his family," explains Reuben.
Over coffee, I bring up the subject of the USS Liberty.
"President Lyndon Johnson and the CIA could see that Nasser was increasingly pro-Soviet," says Reuben. "Johnson decided to topple Nasser. As part of Operation Cyanide, the USS LIBERTY was sent to operate off the Sinai coast, in order for it to be sunk."
I ask about Israel's role.
"We were asked to give a little help to the Pentagon," says Reuben, with a hint of a smile.